gtmoBlue wrote:Excellent post by Gumby...excellent.
Great breakdown of the pieces of a good Jays team. Logical and to-the-point assessment of what is there, expectations, and possible limitations of a hyped Jays squad.
I too do not expect either transfer to be as capable as Ryan Hawkins - Jays were very fortunate in landing him. And while I expect the sophs to make the leap, there may be some hiccups.
This IS the Big East and nothing is a 'given', whether to Prov, X, lil Cr8n, or Nova. Nobody is rolling over and giving lil cr8n a pass. Jays'll have to EARN IT...I believe they will.
Great reality check by Gumby.
ArmyVet wrote:I think Creighton is the favorite, but I'm not sure that they'd have 1/100 the hype if they had lost to SDSU in the first round of the NCAAT. Right?
GumbyDamnit! wrote:
First Chap and now this...Et tu Kayako?
Look, Creighton has a nice squad. There are some nice pieces there for sure. But people are already putting this team in the FF. This is after losing 2 key players who were on the floor 67 MPG and who produced 26 & 13 per game, and were their best outside shooters. I think people are looking at their last handful of games--the blowout win in the BET vs PC and the fine showing vs KU in the tourney--and forgetting that CU was a game from finishing tied for 5th/6th in league play, and missed having to play the league RS Champ a 2nd time.
CU finished 50th in Kenpom last year--2 spots ahead of SHU and 3 ahead of X and 5 ahead of SJU. There is a very easy argument to be made that X has the most returning talent AND they upgraded their coaching considerably. Scruggs could ball but is that a bigger loss than Hawkins and O'Connell? We all think Nembhardt is a player (and he is) and it was a shame that he got hurt. But maybe having Alexander at the point--especially defensively--really helped the team overall. Maybe the kid from SD State doesn't fit right in like Hawkins did. Interestingly So Dak St. played all of 3 teams last year who finished in the Kenpom 100. His shooting #'s against those (3) 39% overall from the floor and 29% from 3. Firing away vs Omaha and their players are slightly different than having guys like Brandon Slater and Colby Jones stick to you for 40 minutes.
Big, big expectations following the Jays this offseason...hope they don't lose that Eye of the Tiger.
mel ott wrote:Francisco is the best shooter; Baylor and Mason are next. I like what Francisco brings to the table with seniority, leadership, defense, and shooting. Mason will backup Arthur at the four I would expect.
Wizard of Westroads wrote:FWIW, from Bart Torvik:
RETURNING MINUTES
Creighton 65.5%
Xavier 63.1%
St. John's 59.6%
Seton Hall 53.6%
Marquette 53.0%
Villanova 48.7%
DePaul 45.3%
Butler 42.3%
Connecticut 36.4%
Georgetown 29.5%
Providence 26.7%
PROJECTED TALENT
Villanova 76.6
Creighton 70.3
Connecticut 63.9
Seton Hall 61.4
Providence 60.9
Xavier 57.4
St. John's 57.2
Marquette 53.7
Butler 52.7
Georgetown 39.2
DePaul 33.2
Return to Big East basketball message board
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests